the kind of thing that paul ryan was talking about? a voucher type system. here is the amount of money you have, it's your responsibility to go out and buy up land. >> well, i don't think he will do that. as to visual. >> can he get there without doing a? >> i think so, but it's tough. this is increasing the age of eligibility to be more close to the actual age in which people are living as opposed to the age that they were living in 1965 when medicare was adopted. the average age was about something. now it is closing in on 80. that saves a lot of money every year. i think the president has to show the public and the republicans who are acting to support higher revenue, that he is prepared and democrats are prepared to deal courageously. >> i think you have to realize here that the president has his own constituency. and if he gets too far off of the road here, he's going to lose the democrats and particularly, the liberal democrats. if the democrats who run the united states senate, where they tried to. i saw something the other day that when lyndon johnso